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Should anyone be allowed to request a recount of an Arizona election's votes if they post bond to cover the cost? An upcoming bill says yes. Details in comments

Dana Chiueh Staff Member
The bill, SB1010, was introduced by Republican legislator J.D. Mesnard of Chandler as a "way to bolster confidence in elections." Some opposing concerns include the personnel costs and time that would be required to carry out these recounts. A Democratic legislator characterized this policy as "allowing rich people to demand a recount simply because they can afford it." The bill will be voted on in the House Government & Elections Committee tomorrow, Wednesday 3/24. What do you think?
https://legiscan.com/AZ/drafts/SB1010/2021
Tricia Gerrodette
Since this is now Thursday, I guess the vote was yesterday. And I guess this was the committee that went off the rails for incivility, that I saw comments about yesterday. We have standards for recounts on close elections and those seem to have worked well for many years.
Now this concept about having a recount just because you can afford to pay for it is pretty obviously not of benefit to the majority of us on poor or limited income. But rich people could keep delaying results of an election? Could that keep an ostensible winner from being sworn into office?[I don't know the details of the bill.] That sounds damaging to democracy, to say the least.
Michael F.S.W. Morrison
Funny how people who like to be called "Democratic" so strongly oppose real democracy.
All of my lifetime, much of it spent in one-party states, Democrats have -- quietly, secretly -- often spent more money on bribery, corruption, tombstone voting than on legitimate advertising.
They lied and cheated and stole, even against other Democrats.
They used weaselly legislation and/or strong-arm tactics to keep certain people, especially black people, from voting at all.
There is a very relevant truism that says "It doesn't matter as much who votes as who counts the votes," and we can see how some people give more credence to that, and therefore oppose recounts, unless they themselves can control the counting and re-counting process.
It's even more hilarious to see members of the Demagogic Party denouncing -- or pretending to denounce -- "rich people," when their own party lied, cheated, and bent and even broke their own rules to let a couple of billionaires -- Steyr and Bloomberg -- into the primary debates while changing those rules to prevent Tulsi Gabbard from participating.
So, do we want "democracy" or not? So far, votes here say "not." Except for mine.
Phyllis Romero
How would we know the answer to this when we have no idea what is in the bill? We the People (the Government) are kept in the dark in this until bills are about ready to be voted upon. Depending on which party (not The People) stands to benefit the most, we already know the direction in which the voting and the enactment of the bill into law will be taken. We The People no longer rule our own government. We have become slum lords of our own government, and as such have abdicated our power to the rich and to our elected (mis)representatives who've sold their souls to "The Party." Sad.
Betty Tracy
This is getting embarrassing. Excerpts from The New York Times today: By Michael Wines
May 6, 2021

Untrained citizens are trying to find traces of bamboo on last year’s ballots, seemingly trying to prove a conspiracy theory that the election was tainted by fake votes from Asia. Thousands of ballots are left unattended and unsecured. People with open partisan bias, including a man who was photographed on the Capitol steps during the Jan. 6 riot, are doing the recounting.

All of these issues with the Republican-backed re-examination of the November election results from Arizona’s most populous county were laid out this week by Katie Hobbs, Arizona’s Democratic secretary of state, in a scathing six-page letter. The effort has no official standing and will not change the state’s vote, whatever it finds. But it has become so troubled that the Department of Justice also expressed concerns this week in a letter saying that it might violate federal laws.
The scene playing out in Arizona is perhaps the most off-the-rails episode in the Republican Party’s escalating effort to support former President Donald J. Trump’s lie that he won the election. Four months after Congress certified the results of the presidential election, local officials around the country are continuing to provide oxygen for Mr. Trump’s obsession that he beat Joseph R. Biden Jr. last fall.
The letter also noted that some aspects of the process “appear better suited for chasing conspiracy theories than as a part of a professional audit.”
Gisele Millers
That reads a bit like buying an election. Our electoral system is already on that slippery slope.

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